-- dwmw2 From jason_at_jasonjgw.net Date: 2 Wed, 2011 Feb Received: from ppsw-50.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.150]) by cavan.codon.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <chat-bounces_at_lca2011.linux.org.au>) id 1PkURt-0007hS-Qp for mjg59_at_codon.org.uk; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 04:36:13 +0000 X-Cam-AntiVirus: no malware found X-Cam-SpamDetails: not scanned X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ Received: from pip.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.179.83]:34267) by ppsw-50.csi.cam.ac.uk (ppsw.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.137]:25) with esmtp id 1PkURu-0004iz-r2 (Exim 4.72) for mjg59_at_codon.org.uk (return-path <chat-bounces_at_lca2011.linux.org.au>); Wed, 02 Feb 2011 04:36:10 +0000 Received: from ppsw-52.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.152]) by pip.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.71 #1 (Debian)) id 1PkURr-0000Rs-KP for <mjg59_at_srcf.ucam.org>; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 04:36:08 +0000 X-Cam-AntiVirus: no malware found X-Cam-SpamDetails: score -1.0 from SpamAssassin-3.3.1-1052462 * 0.8 DKIM_ADSP_ALL No valid author signature, domain signs all mail * -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily * valid * 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ Received: from lionfish.followtheflow.org ([202.158.218.249]:49214) by ppsw-52.csi.cam.ac.uk (mx.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.149]:25) with esmtp (csa=unknown) id 1PkURp-0003Nq-Ew (Exim 4.72) for mjg59_at_srcf.ucam.org (return-path <chat-bounces_at_lca2011.linux.org.au>); Wed, 02 Feb 2011 04:36:07 +0000 Received: from localhost.linux.org.au ([127.0.0.1] helo=lionfish.followtheflow.org) by lionfish.followtheflow.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <chat-bounces_at_lca2011.linux.org.au>) id 1PkUPb-0002X3-Ja; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:33:47 +1100 Received: from ppp203-122-198-234.lns6.adl6.internode.on.net ([203.122.198.234] helo=jdc.jasonjgw.net) by lionfish.followtheflow.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <jason_at_jasonjgw.net>) id 1PkUPZ-0002Wy-Jd for chat_at_lca2011.linux.org.au; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:33:45 +1100 Received: by jdc.jasonjgw.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4C099180020DC; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:33:43 +1100 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=jasonjgw.net; s=mail; t=1296621223; bh=juo8LuKTMfzRYV2eTlymZ6OidoS9v/b1Q40aJhFejYc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:In-Reply-To; b=KJ/Y1Yny1/02oeu4CYSl2ZMDesRYBCtwRb/baZSWqrHXpKNTL8UO82uiX4B+MHs8U zo2t60pw3pRl4B0DGX+TNB+2HHDXP63IZSYoIS5WiVDFV4Dlw2E7wZttAj0dXoItWu c1bUz4x0hYHHziEFxjg1rkuMam8FmmYD8jl4OWto= Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:33:43 +1100 From: Jason White <jason_at_jasonjgw.net> To: chat_at_lca2011.linux.org.au Message-ID: <20110202043343.GA20337_at_jdc.jasonjgw.net> References: <1296461607.5278.231.camel_at_russell-laptop> <AANLkTinwRZEvX5pADfKqwM_VoCMVTwpu9h46jzWkK9j9_at_mail.gmail.com> <1296552412.13656.384.camel_at_russell-laptop> <AANLkTi=JnCFoM8w0pexoBm58uEOe2hKaMZ0nVgSLpjwm_at_mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=JnCFoM8w0pexoBm58uEOe2hKaMZ0nVgSLpjwm_at_mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: chat_at_lca2011.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: LCA2011 Delegates Chat <chat_at_lca2011.linux.org.au> List-Id: LCA2011 Delegates Chat <chat.lca2011.linux.org.au> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.followtheflow.org/mailman/options/chat>, <mailto:chat-request_at_lca2011.linux.org.au?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.followtheflow.org/pipermail/chat> List-Post: <mailto:chat_at_lca2011.linux.org.au> List-Help: <mailto:chat-request_at_lca2011.linux.org.au?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.followtheflow.org/mailman/listinfo/chat>, <mailto:chat-request_at_lca2011.linux.org.au?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: chat-bounces_at_lca2011.linux.org.au Errors-To: chat-bounces_at_lca2011.linux.org.au X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 131.111.8.150 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chat-bounces_at_lca2011.linux.org.au X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on cavan.codon.org.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=4.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 X-Spam-ASN: AS786 131.111.0.0/16 Subject: Re: [LCA2011-Chat] Some Anti-Harassment Policies considered harmful X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:23:21 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on cavan.codon.org.uk) Content-Length: 1063 Valerie Aurora <valerie.aurora_at_gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, I'd agree that getting people to read it is a problem. :) Inevitably it is, just as there are people who assent to contracts without reading their terms fully, let alone understanding them. I would also hope that increasing participation by women (and members of other groups who may be discrimianted against) combined with greater awareness of the issues can result in cultural change. I don't have rigorous empirical evidence for this, but I would expect people to be less likely to behave in a violent, exploitative, discriminatory or prejudiced fashion when they know they're surrounded by colleagues who overwhelmingly disapprove of such conduct. Policies certainly help in giving conference organizers means of addressing transgressions, while offering participants clear guidance as to what is expected (unfortunately, for some, this isn't obvious). _______________________________________________ Chat mailing list Chat_at_lca2011.linux.org.au http://lists.followtheflow.org/mailman/listinfo/chatReceived on Tue Feb 01 2011 - 09:54:01 GMT
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